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- From: "Rainer Riedl" <Rainer.Riedl@edi.ngate.uni-regensburg.de>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 18:21:04 MET-1
- Subject: Re: Digest
- Priority: normal
- Message-Id: <13F37911C7D@edi.ngate.uni-regensburg.de>
- Precedence: bulk
-
- *** Hello Michel,
-
- > 10K? Ack! No, I was only suggesting a BRIEF message; maybe three
- sentences
- > long, at the most. Placing the note in the documentation is a good idea,
- > too, though.
-
- Sorry, I think I was misunderstandig you (I'm not as good in English as I
- should be). Three sentences are ok.
-
- > Why is that a problem? A standard with nine levels of support would be
- > extremely complex; anyway, why nine? Use HEX! :)
-
- I thought of color-handling/-selector standard, (unmodal-)dialog-handling
- standard, font-selector standard, help-system standard, shared filter
- standard, ... (some of them were already discussed here)
-
- > Conclusion: including a list of internationally available key combinations
- > in the shortcut standard is necessary IMO.
-
- Not to forget the key combinations of alternative (PC-like) keyboards.
-
- > It would be easy enough for them to do, I think. The two major BASIC
- > systems offer standard procedure calling, with parameters (a little
- > like "C", I suppose).
-
- Omikron-Basic does!
-
- >>A fellow SGI lover, eh? :) Did you know that SGI financially supports
- >>its users groups, develops, supports, and advertizes new technology, has
-
- >If you pay $200,000 for a computer, you can more or less expect these
- >things... :)
-
- Offtopic:
- A few weeks ago I was at an presentation of the new Indy by SGI here at the
- university. Somebody asked, what happens if an app crashes. The man from SGI
- said: "No problem, this process then will be killed and the others keep on
- running as before." -- One minute later the hole system crashes, the Indy
- was dead, must be turned off and on again and the SGI-man gets a very red
- skin in his face. (grin) ;-)))))
-
- >> >CTRL-I - info on the text/object
- >> >CTRL-? - info on the application
- >>
- >> Well _I_ like this.
- >
- > I hate it. See above for ^? Its the same idea as ^+. And what about
- > italic? Why throw away the ATARI Compendium and the other guidelines
- > that already give specific meaning to ^I ??
-
- There it would be interesting to have the supposed international keyboard
- list. With which other characters does the '?' apear on one key? Here on my
- German PC-like keyboard it's the German eszet that will never be used as
- shortcut and the '\' (in use with 'ALT GR', the second ALT-key).
- (I can't throw away the Compendium - I don't have it because it's too
- expensive [120 DM]:-) But I see absolutely no danger in using this in the
- wrong way. If you use an old program and press ^? nothing will happen and
- with ^I you get info anyway. (But I prefer ^I ^B ^U [^_,^=] for italics,
- bold and underline. You not only can use them in text-apps. In graphic-apps
- you also have textobjects. But that's only my opinion as I'm not used to
- many shortcuts as I'm a mouse-freak:-)
-
-
- *** Hello Timothy,
-
- > (which is fine for me), then something else will have to be
- > Redraw-Window. How about Ctrl-A? It's harmess enough.
-
- Has anybody a feeling of deja vu? :-)
-
- > update, just an update when you WANT it. In this case, you'd need such a
- > shortcut. How about Ctrl-A?
-
- Has anybody a ...
-
- > You're right. It's too much. I prefer the terms "Hide Block", or
- > "Deselect Block". Using the word 'all' in there doesn't seem to make
- > much sense.
-
- Deselect sounds better to me. With 'hide' I think of something like hiding
- behind a tree. (I hope you understand what I'm trying to say)
-
- > Reidl:
-
- -> Riedl :-)
-
- > )The proposed icon with the number in it isn't good, because of the limit
- of
- > )9 levels.
- >
- > Ha! Do you think Atari's going to be around that long? They don't
- > develop computers any more. We're just trying to salvage what's left of
- > the developers and make our twilight years the best they can be.
-
- Don't forget the 3rd party TOS computers (if you have enough money:-)
- See what I've written above. But if we take so long to get the shortcut
- standard then you're probably right.
-
-
- *** Hello Annius,
-
- > The David Letterman of the Gem-list, Tim Miller:
-
- :-)
-
-
- *** Hello Ofir,
-
- > I think Deselect or Deselect All is fine, not all programs have a block.
-
- Agreed
-